{"id":5262,"date":"2021-05-11T17:14:47","date_gmt":"2021-05-11T17:14:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jobhunt.fj-dev.com\/starting-salary-question\/"},"modified":"2022-02-11T08:12:18","modified_gmt":"2022-02-11T15:12:18","slug":"starting-salary-question","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/starting-salary-question\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussing the Starting Salary Question with External Headhunters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When an employer asks you what your salary expectations are during the early stages of the interviewing process, you are trained to say you are open-minded on salary and are more concerned about the opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>And from there, the conversation can go in a few directions hopefully leading to an ideal result.<\/p>\n<p>When working with an external recruiter, the process is slightly different. An external recruiter is sometimes viewed as a gatekeeper to employment opportunities.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgba(0, 197, 179, 0.4);\">As an extension of the company, the external recruiter&#8217;s job is to present only qualified candidates who meet the job requirements (and often times, budget). So when they ask you about salary, they need to understand your<em> true<\/em> requirements.<\/p>\n<p>Advertisement<\/p>\n<h2>But <em>First,<\/em> Are You Qualified?<\/h2>\n<p>Recruiters first want to know if you\u2019re qualified. Salary is secondary.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, if you\u2019re an A-List Candidate (the perfect match and maybe a little more), they can represent your best wishes to maximize your offer. But, <em>first<\/em> they must understand the value you bring to the table.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgba(0, 197, 179, 0.4);\">By sharing how you meet all the needs of the position, you have gotten yourself past Step 1.<\/p>\n<p>But by sharing additional talents that may benefit the recruiter\u2019s client, you have gotten to Step 2 &#8212; the recruiter is not only your advocate, but can validate why your salary might need to exceed their budget. Either way, you\u2019re in the door, and the salary question will come up.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>The Want and The Need<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Often times, you are faced with providing a range of your salary requirements.<\/p>\n<p>The lower end of the range is what you <em>need<\/em> (to balance the checkbook each month), and the upper end is what you really <em>want<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>It is fine to express this the whole range to the recruiter. They just want to know how your range overlaps with the client\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgba(0, 197, 179, 0.4);\">At this moment in discussions, many candidates throw out: <em>&#8220;I\u2019m open.&#8221;<\/em> <strong>This is NOT helpful. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Granted, many recruiters know the market rate for your position (also taking into account your capabilities and years of experience). However, you may end up with an offer below your expectations.<\/p>\n<p>In essence, you are not quite as &#8220;open&#8221; as you thought.<\/p>\n<h2>The Reality<\/h2>\n<p>You need to communicate your true feelings about salary as the recruiter will be able to set your expectations about the opportunity and allow you to evaluate whether you want to interview for the position.<\/p>\n<p>Keeping the recruiter in the dark, or worse yet, misleading the recruiter, can lead to a bad experience for you, them, and the hiring company. By knowing exactly what you are worth (your market value), you can offer a realistic range that is likely to be accepted.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgba(0, 197, 179, 0.4);\">One caution: do your homework well when determining your value. Salary curves and data can be skewed. Don&#8217;t rely on one online source, and don&#8217;t believe everything you read.<\/p>\n<p>Keep in mind, it is not uncommon for hiring companies to ask for W2\/salary history information. If there is a large disconnect between last year\u2019s earning and your salary request, you\u2019ll have to justify the difference.<\/p>\n<p>In a good economy, candidate\u2019s have the right to ask for a 5 to 10% raise for taking a risk when leaving a current job for another. This number gets lowered during bad economic times, especially if there are many candidates vying for the same job.<\/p>\n<h2>Recruiter\u2019s Point of View<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgba(0, 197, 179, 0.4);\">In my case, once I know you overlap the client\u2019s budget, I hold off the salary discussion with the client until the offer stage.<\/p>\n<p>I want them to figure out what they think the candidate\u2019s value is based on the interview, not salary data or history.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, you still have the opportunity to maximize your offer. It is a matter of communicating your value to the hiring company. They know based on what they hear how you compare to their current employees, and they will provide a fair offer that hopefully meets your standards, but also is consistent with previous hires\u2019 offers.<\/p>\n<p>I recently had a candidate start with a high salary range and later accepted a lower offer. I\u2019m sure he didn\u2019t appreciate having to step back during the offer stage process, but as I stated, the company knows what they feel is fair. What you want must match their expectations in the end (if you want the job).<\/p>\n<h2>Know What Is Most Important<\/h2>\n<p>Yes, we all want as much salary as we can get, but at what cost? I\u2019ve seen great opportunities passed up by candidates over a $5,000 salary difference. That\u2019s $208 per pay check, before taxes.<\/p>\n<p>Make sure you take into account long-term growth potential, benefits (that could include monetary impacts), and quality-of-work life.<\/p>\n<h3>Bottom Line<\/h3>\n<p>Working with an external recruiter can make the process easier. By being open with them, you are guaranteeing that you are not going to reach a salary issue roadblock later in the process. Your only concern will be &#8220;winning the job&#8221; by interviewing effectively and proving you are worth every penny.<\/p>\n<p>When working with an <em>internal recruiter<\/em> (who are employees of the company, not an independing recruiting or staffing firm), be much more cautious. Their job is to minimize the cost of the employer of everyy new hire.<\/p>\n<h3>More About the Salary Issue:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"What Is Your Current Salary?\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/..\/job_interviews\/answering-salary-question\/\">Interview Question: What Is Your Current Salary?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"What Are Your Salary Expectations?\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/..\/job_interviews\/answering-salary-expectation-question\/\">Interview Question: What Are Your Salary Expectations?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>More About Working with Recruiters:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"How to Be Found by Recruiters on LinkedIn\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/linkedin-recruiters\/\">How to Be Found by Recruiters on LinkedIn<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Smart Answers to Interview Questions\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/..\/job_interviews\/smart-interview-answers\/\">Smart Answers to Interview Questions<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"3 Steps to Interview Success: Build Your Interview Checklist\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/job-interview-success\/\">3 Steps to Interview Success: Build Your Interview Checklist<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/job-interview-success-secret\/\">Your Stories: The Secret to Interview Success<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"9 Secrets for Nailing Your Phone Interview\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/ace-phone-interviews\/\">9 Secrets for Nailing Your Phone Interview<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"How to Add Recruiters to Your LinkedIn Network\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/linkedin-recruiters2\/\">How to Add Recruiters to Your LinkedIn Network<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/social-media-impact\/\">How Your Social Media Reputation Impacts Hiring Decisions<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"How to Manage Your References to Close - NOT Kill - Opportunities\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/effective-job-search-references\/\">How to Manage Your References to Close &#8211; NOT Kill &#8211; Opportunities<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Over 50: Managing the 'Age Issue'\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/managing-age-issue\/\">Over 50: Managing the &#8220;Age Issue&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"How to Gracefully Leave Your Old Job\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/leaving-your-job\/\">How to Gracefully Leave Your Old Job<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"How to Find a Job While You Have One\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/finding-job-while-employed\/\">How to Find a Job While You Have One<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" pull-right img-responsive img-circle\" style=\"margin: 5px 10px 10px 5px;\" src=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Jeff-Lipschultz-6.jpg\" alt=\"Jeff Lipschultz\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" \/><strong>About the author&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Job-Hunt&#8217;s Working with Recruiters Expert <a href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/working-with-recruiters-expert\/\">Jeff Lipschultz<\/a> is a 20+ year veteran in management, hiring, and recruiting of all types of business and technical professionals. He has worked in industries ranging from telecom to transportation to dotcom. Jeff is a founding partner of A-List Solutions, a Dallas-based recruiting and employment consulting company. Learn more about him through his company site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alistsolutions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">alistsolutions.com<\/a>. Follow Jeff on <a title=\"Jeff Lipschultz LinkedIn Profile\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jefflipschultz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a> and on Twitter (<a title=\"Jeff Lipschultz on Twitter\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JLipschultz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">@JLipschultz<\/a>).<br \/>\n<a title=\"More about this author\" href=\"https:\/\/job-hunt.org\/working-with-recruiters-expert\/\">More about this author<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recruiter Jeff Lipschultz helps you understand how to answer the all-important starting salary question.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":24586,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"old-site-template.php","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[83,102],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5262","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-salary-and-benefit-negotiation","category-job-recruiters"],"last_modified_at":"","edited_by":"Wendy Fecteau","acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5262","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5262"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5262\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24587,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5262\/revisions\/24587"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/24586"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5262"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5262"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.job-hunt.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5262"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}